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MessageSujet: #NotOurHomeland   Lun 31 Juil - 17:02

Holy Shit, this is happening! Le mouvement de protestation a commencé!!! Il prend le nom de Not Our Homeland:


Voilà comment le mouvement se présente:

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Who we are

We are a group of impassioned Homeland fans who have had enough.

After the season six finale of Homeland, many of us felt confused, crushed, and cheated.

We could not stand for the unceremonious and senseless death of Peter Quinn–himself a modern-day, unconventional veteran–nor for the downtrodden, relentlessly bleak storytelling, a far cry from the Homeland we had come to know and love.

We could not stand for this supposedly feminist show turning its smart, dynamic, difficult heroine in Carrie Mathison into a shell of herself. We could not stand for her journey being dictated and directed by mostly middle-aged white men.

And we really could not stand for the silence–from the writers, producers, distributors, and creators of Homeland. Not a word has been spoken of Peter Quinn’s importance to the show, its characters, and its narrative. Not a word has been spoken of Rupert Friend’s work. And not a word has been spoken of any of the above.

It has been over three months since Peter Quinn’s death, since the finale sealed the fate of a “new Homeland,” one in which prescience takes precedent over honest character progression and meaningful narrative.

This is not our Homeland. And we are fighting back.


What we’re doing

Put simply, we are fighting back. Our first goal is to honor Peter Quinn in a way the writers never did by raising funds for the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund. The IFHF is an organization devoted to helping veterans and their families. In addition to providing financial support to vets and their loved ones, the IFHF helps provide care to veterans suffering from traumatic brain injury and psychological health conditions.

Please join us in honoring Peter Quinn’s legacy and donate to an organization committed to honoring America’s veterans. Click hereto donate.

We also demanding that Alex Gansa, his writing and producing team, and Showtime hear us. We are mobilizing a campaign across social media platforms, engaging the media, and making our grievances known. They cannot ignore us any longer. Click hereto donate to those efforts.

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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Lun 31 Juil - 17:09

Encore des présentations:

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Announcing  #NotOurHomeland

   Over the past three and a half months, many of you have expressed your confusion, sadness, and outrage over what transpired at the end of Homeland’s sixth season and the ensuing aftermath. You asked what you could do and how you could be heard.

   As a result, we decided to start #NotOurHomeland. This fandom movement has two main aims:

   1. Honor Peter Quinn’s legacy in a way the writers and producers of Homeland have refused to do.

   To achieve this aim, we are raising funds for the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund, which supports veterans and their families when they return back home. Read more about our efforts and donate here.


   2. Demand a response from Alex Gansa on the conclusion of season six.

   Our grievances on the conclusion of season six include but are not limited to: the emphasis on prescience over honest character progression; the senseless death of Peter Quinn; and the dissolution of Carrie Mathison’s agency at the hands of a majority white, male writers room.

   To achieve this aim, we are launching a coordinated media campaign, anchored by this strong fandom community, across several social media platforms. Read more about our efforts and donate to that fund here.

   Put simply, this is not the Homeland we signed up for.

   In order to achieve these aims, we need your help. We will officially be launching this campaign in the media later this week. In the meantime, here’s how you can contribute in these early stages:

   First, donate.

   Give whatever you can. If you will be willing to donate $500 or more, please let us know directly (email us at media@notourhomeland.com) so that we can strategize about how best to leverage your contribution (e.g., making it a matching gift with smaller donors, etc.).

       Donate to the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund and honor Quinn’s legacy here.
       Donate to our “Cause a Ruckus” fund here.

   Second, share about #NotOurHomeland on social media.

   Follow us on Twitter and Facebook and let your fellow fans know you are fighting back with us. We can help you with the communications if you’d like. There are thousands of angry fans across these platforms and we need your help reaching all corners of them.

   Third, tell us how you feel!

   We are also launching a coordinated letter-writing campaign to Alex Gansa and Showtime. Submit a letter here or email it to us at letters@notourhomeland.com.

   Together, we know we can do this. We know we can be heard. Now let’s mobilize!


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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Lun 31 Juil - 17:11

Eh bah, ils se sont sacrément bien organisés !! Je n'ai pas conscience exactement de l'ampleur du mauvais traitement du personnage de Quinn et de l'acteur qui l'interprète, hormis ce que tu nous en as dit a.a.k, mais je trouve que c'est une excellente initiative de "fight back" pour offrir une meilleure considération, tant au personnage qu'à l'importance que lui et sa storyline ont eu pour la série.
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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Lun 31 Juil - 17:27

Je reposte la présentation du site de donation, parce qu'ils expliquent à quoi servira l'argent.

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#NotOurHomeland


Not Our Homeland Team
We demand to be heard by the writers and producers of Homeland. Funds contributed here will go toward a coordinated media campaign to make the writers and producers sit up and listen.


We are a group of impassioned Homeland fans who have had enough.

After the season six finale of Homeland, many of us felt confused, crushed, and cheated.

We could not stand for the unceremonious and senseless death of Peter Quinn–himself a modern-day, unconventional veteran–nor for the downtrodden, relentlessly bleak storytelling, a far cry from the Homeland we had come to know and love.

We could not stand for this supposedly feminist show turning its smart, dynamic, difficult heroine in Carrie Mathison into a shell of herself. We could not stand for her journey being dictated and directed by mostly middle-aged white men.

And we really could not stand for the silence–from the writers, producers, distributors, and creators of Homeland. Not a word has been spoken of Peter Quinn’s importance to the show, its characters, and its narrative. Not a word has been spoken of Rupert Friend’s work. And not a word has been spoken of any of the above.

It has been over three months since Peter Quinn’s death, since the finale sealed the fate of a “new Homeland,” one in which prescience takes precedent over honest character progression and meaningful narrative.

This is not our Homeland. And we are fighting back.

Funds donated to this campaign will go toward the following:

  An ad publicizing our grievances in a major entertainment publication.
   #TunaForGansa, which is our effort to send thousands of cans of tuna to the Homeland writers and Showtime offices.
   Operational costs to support our letter-writing campaign (e.g., postage)


Any funds not used for these efforts will be donated to our simultaneous fundraising effort to benefit the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund.



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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Lun 31 Juil - 17:33

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Eh bah, ils se sont sacrément bien organisés !! Je n'ai pas conscience exactement de l'ampleur du mauvais traitement du personnage de Quinn et de l'acteur qui l'interprète, hormis ce que tu nous en as dit a.a.k, mais je trouve que c'est une excellente initiative de "fight back" pour offrir une meilleure considération, tant au personnage qu'à l'importance que lui et sa storyline ont eu pour la série.


C'est clair que c'est super bien organisé. D'un autre côté, 3 mois de rancœur, ça aide lol!

Perso, je vais faire une donation! Déjà, parce que je trouve la situation honteuse (je ne vais pas entrer dans les détails, sauf si certains le veulent. Mais c'est plus que "ohhhh, mon perso préféré a été tué et maintenant, mon ship ne va jamais se produire *pouts*!) mais en plus je suis contente de, pour une fois, pouvoir ajouter ma pierre à l'édifice. Je ne sais pas si ça changera quoi que ce soit, mais j'aime le fait de faire entendre notre mécontentement. Les fans méritent plus de respect que ce qu'on nous donne et il est temps que certains s'en rendent compte. Puis, on a encore vu avec Sense8 que les fans *ont* le pouvoir de faire changer les choses!

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Voilà, c'est officiel, j'ai fait une petite donation. Pas grand chose, mais c'est difficile de donner plus.

Mon bête petit message:

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Peter Quinn mérite mieux, Rupert Friend mérite mieux, nous, les fans, méritons mieux! Not Our Homeland!!!!

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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Mar 1 Aoû - 16:48

Une lettre qui a été envoyée à Alex Gansa après le 6x12, par l'équipe du blog What the Homeland? Elle n'a rien à voir avec le mouvement de protestation de #NotOurHomeland, mais je trouve qu'elle explique bien ce qui pousse les fans à se révolter:

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A Letter to Homeland Creators


Dear Mr. Gansa and Mr. Gordon,

As avid fans of Homeland since season 1, we would like to thank you for such an intriguing show and for giving us characters that we have enjoyed for so many years. So much were we consumed by the world you created that we started blogs and forums to discuss it with thousands of like-minded fans from around the world.

After the season 6 finale, however, we can’t help but feel devastated. The callous way in which Peter Quinn, a character we have come to love so dearly, was killed off has left us reeling with sadness.

That we’ve become so attached to a fictional person, of course, speaks volumes of the quality of writing and acting on Homeland. We were equally invested in the journey of Carrie Mathison, the protagonist. Her arc, we thought, was one of personal growth, with Quinn – a man with a strong moral compass – as her partner.

We were invested in Quinn because we were invested in Carrie. With Quinn gone, we’re not quite sure what Carrie’s journey will be, but if Quinn’s relentless suffering is any indication, we expect it will end badly. Forgive us, but we can’t invest eight years of our lives on rooting for a character whose suffering will never be rewarded. We invested five years on Quinn and the result was unabated heartbreak.

Real life hands us enough tragedy, we don’t need to seek it out in fiction. Times are bleak, as you well know, and we turn to artists for some hope, optimism, for a way to put into words and pictures the things we are feeling. We turn to stories for things to make sense and for good people to triumph ultimately over evil.

Homeland was bleak, but we willingly endured the bleakness awaiting a payoff. We got none. Quinn was a fighter and we expected him to overcome his demons and prevail. What we got this season was the exact opposite. He died full of self-loathing; that, we cannot forgive. With no reward for Quinn, the Dar reveal on the dock and Astrid’s tragic death feel entirely gratuitous, not to mention the two years of physical torment he suffered.

And what kind of a message have you sent to depressed and disabled veterans and stroke survivors around the world who saw themselves in Quinn? To victims of sexual abuse? That they’re better off dead? What an abominable message. The unceremonious manner in which Quinn was killed off, with no vicarious closure for the audience in the form of a ceremony or proper displays of grief from his friends, was just cruel.

We are sorry to say that we feel utterly betrayed and manipulated by the way you chose to portray Quinn’s journey over the past two seasons. The season 5 fake-death cliffhanger in retrospect feels like a cheap way to bait Quinn fans into sticking with the show for another season. So does the way you developed the Carrie/Quinn romance arc, which you yourself said was the emotional center of the season. Another story lopped off carelessly without resolution or payoff.

We also find Homeland’s message to be antifeminist. A woman with drive and determination destroys everyone in her path. A woman with a calling has to sacrifice her personal life. These are harmful stereotypes and we urge you to consider the special responsibility you bear by having a female protagonist.

Is your intended message one of utter hopelessness? The fight is futile and the bad guys will win? We are sorry, but nihilism is not the same as realism. Ambiguity is not the same as artistry. Your commitment to ambiguity now comes across as an inability or unwillingness to commit to your stories or characters; building the plane as you fly it, as a lack of vision and planning. Ambiguity has become your go-to excuse to avoid criticism: when “anything goes” is the name of the game, there is no accountability.

Finally, having no comment or statement from the showrunners following the death of a much-loved character like Peter Quinn has made things even worse.

What the Homeland


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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Mar 1 Aoû - 16:53

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A Day 1 Update


Hi everyone!

We’d like to provide a Day 1 update to everyone and thank you all for the donations. In just ONE DAY we’ve already raised over $3000 for the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund. Thank you thank you thank you for being a part of this movement.

Many of you have asked why we chose IFHF. There are a few reasons. First, we were looking for a way to properly memorialize Peter Quinn. Because Peter Quinn’s life did have worth and value. He died serving his country, and he loved selflessly and courageously. IFHF is an organization whose mission is to honor and support the men and women of the British and American military service, as well as their families, as they return home.

We hope that these donations–any amount you can give–can do what the show unfortunately failed to do: honor Peter Quinn.

If you don’t feel comfortable giving, that’s totally ok. We recognize that not everyone will. Instead, we invite you to participate in our letter-writing campaign and tell your own story. How did Peter Quinn’s death and the end of the sixth season impact you? Many have offered deeply touching testimonials of the power of this narrative and its characters. We would like to hear yours.

Thank you,
Not Our Homeland team





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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Mar 1 Aoû - 23:39

J'ai lu la lettre envoyée à Alex Gansa tout à l'heure, par curiosité (vu que je n'en suis qu'au tout début de la série) et c'est sacrément bien présenté ! Kudos à eux pour ça.

Et je vois dans le dernier post que le mouvement est un succès, donc doublement kudos ! Heureuse que ça donne le résultat espéré.
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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Mer 2 Aoû - 17:20

Je trouve aussi! Je pense que le fandom d'Homeland (du moins la partie où je traine le plus en touriste) est fichtrement intelligent et passionné et investi. C'est sûrement le cas de *beaucoup* de fandom, mais c'est vraiment quelque chose qui m'a impressionnée au début. A quel point ces personnes sont aussi bien articulées et posées et... ouais, je suis impressionnée ^^

Et c'est pour ça que je suis autant prise par le buzz (en plus de mon amour du perso et du couple), parce que ce n'est pas juste des petites ados prépubères qui piquent une crise parce que leur perso préféré a été tué. C'est vraiment tout ce que ça représente, le message que ça envoie, le manque de reconnaissance, ... Enfin, je pense que les fans ont des raisons pertinentes d'être fâchés et de le faire savoir.


Et c'est clair que c'est cool de voir autant de dévouement, surtout quand ça concerne l'argent. Mais, je crois que c'est vraiment le message renvoyé aux vétérans (une intrigue qu'ils étaient si fiers de dire qu'ils allaient aborder, quelque chose d'encore jamais vu à la télé!) que tout le monde trouve horrible et que les gens veulent rectifier. Je pense que ça va au-delà d'un personnage fictif, c'est ce que Quinn représente, de par son histoire et son évolution. Et je trouve que c'est vraiment une belle preuve d'humanité de la part d'un fandom de lui rendre autant hommage et de le faire de sorte que ça impacte des personnes réelles!

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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Ven 4 Aoû - 20:27

Quelqu'un a partagé la lettre qu'elle a écrite à Gansa pour le mouvement:


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My Letter To Gansa

All of us who’ve been participating in Homeland communities know how much personal grief and confusion has been shared online since 6.12. We also know that the Homeland producers seem unaware and unconserned about how their finale impacted their viewers. Rupert Friend is the only team member who has expressed empathy for the confusion and sadness many of us feel. Instead, we have seen a steady stream of the producers pandering for Emmys, which has sent a clear message that the Homeland creators are primarily interested in winning critical acclaim rather than understanding the emotional impact their story had for ordinary viewers.

This attitude is perhaps understandable, as traditionally creative professionals were not able to communicate with fans. Even today it would be impossible to monitor each and every Tweet, blog, and Facebook post. However, the extremity of their refusal to listen and respond to our reactions has feels like contempt – as though they have disdain for our emotional involvement in their story and their characters.

The #NotOurHomeland campaign aims to make it easier for the professionals behind Homeland to listen to fans by collecting our stories and presenting them to Alex Gansa. We’ve already raised over 3 thousand dollars to help brain injured vets and we hope that sum will communicate the real intensity of our feelings and pressure Mr. Gansa into taking the time to read about how his work effected his audience.

My own story about Season 6 is focused on Carrie Mathison’s desire for intimacy. I realize that Alex Gansa and Leslie Linka Glatter have both stated that Carrie’s journey in Season 6 is her growing disillusionment with the American Government, as represented by Keane’s betrayal and the ending shot of Carrie looking at the capitol. I didn’t see Keane’s betrayal as approaching the significance of Carrie’s loss of Franny and Quinn, and I am amazed that the creators do not view those losses as the central theme for Carrie in Season 6.

When an exhausted Carrie said “We’ll make it work;” when she tried to get home before her daughter fell asleep but also felt pulled to make things right for Sekou; when Franny calls to Carrie while she is in the middle of an intense interaction with Quinn at the same time Redda telephones; when Carrie arrived home late just to be called back to help her client; I completely related to her struggle. She was trying desperately to care for everyone who needed her and she never could do enough. I have three children and I am absolutely dedicated to the mission of my career, so I felt a connection to Carrie at a deeply personal level. Most of the female heroes we see on TV fit the stereotype of the nearly perfect intimate partner and in-control professional. That image of society’s expectations for me does not capture my heart like Carrie Mathison with all her flaws.

I never thought that Carrie would achieve balance, but I did hope she would make some progress. Instead, I was punched in the gut when Carrie ended the season losing both Franny and Quinn because she was too focused on her mission. Isn’t her mission her career? I always thought of Carrie as a feminist character because she rejects society’s demand that female heroes are virtuous and self-controled. When she suddenly lost her personal relationships due to her emotional investment in her vocation, I felt like vomiting.

I hoped that some insight from the producers would help me to understand how Carrie’s loss and Quinn’s despairing death might move the Homeland narrative forward. Instead, Leslie Linka Glatter has said “I don’t see how Carrie can ever get over this.” At the beginning of this season, we heard a lot about how excited the HL team was to tell the story of a disabled action hero, but we now have no acknowledgement of how that story turned nihilistic and no sympathy for fans who expected some restorative relief for the unrelenting suffering of a beloved character. Instead, the few interviews producers have given are focused on awards, the significance of addressing fake news, and Carrie’s disillusionment with the American government. Nothing we have heard indicates any understanding that fans are focused on yet another devastating loss. This disconnect between the artists and their viewers seems strange and adds to our pain and confusion.

That is my story, Mr. Gansa. I thought I was watching a feminist antihero, but Carrie has turned into a cautionary tale for women who love their work and value personal relationships. I thought we would see how compromises can result in hurting people and how forgiveness and love are both powerful and imperfect. Instead I saw how personal mistakes can result in complete despair followed by death and isolation. Then, rather than acknowledging the dark ways you’ve changed your story and expressing empathy for the viewers, you are giving us contemptuous silence.

Why?



I hope that others who related to Quinn or Carrie in personal ways will share how the finale affected them (I know a lot of you out there relate more to Quinn than Carrie!). With unity and determination, I believe we can get someone to listen.



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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Jeu 24 Aoû - 19:54

Une première lettre publiée par le mouvement dans The Hollywood Reporter:



La réponse de Gansa?

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“It is painful to hear that that even a small segment of our devoted audience is disappointed in Homeland. Until now, I have refrained from commenting publicly on the death of Peter Quinn, believing that Rupert Friend's heart-wrenching performance should speak for itself. I have not changed my view. Suffice to say that I mourn the loss of Peter Quinn as much as anybody and that the character was created not to denigrate but to honor the men and women who devote their lives to keeping America safe. In my eyes, he died a hero.”

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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Jeu 24 Aoû - 22:55


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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Sam 26 Aoû - 22:50

Ma participation à la campagne de lettre (encore un énorme merci à Sophie qui m'a aidé à peaufiner et qui a corriger mes nombreuses fautes ).

C'est pas de la grande littérature, mais je ne pouvais pas passer à côté de l'opportunité d'exprimer ma déception et ma rancoeur (d'ailleurs, ça m'a fait pensdf à quel point j'aurais aimé pouvoir faire la même chose avec Joss Whedon et Cordy...). Bref:



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Cher Monsieur Gansa,

You probably won’t read this, but I still wanted to write to you and all the people involved in the decision making of Homeland Season 6.

First of all, I’d like to say that I live in Belgium (small country between France and Germany. You may have heard of us these last few years). English is not my mother tongue (French is) so I’d like to apologize for the mistakes that probably fill this text.

My relation with Homeland is a bit peculiar I suppose, compared to most fans. I’ve been watching the show since its first season but, for a very long time, I’ve been what most would probably call a casual viewer. I loved the characters and really loved that the plots were so in touch with what was happening in the world, but I didn’t have that ‘click’ that made it more than a love-it-but-don’t-really-think-much-about-it-afterwards kind of show. In fact, while I thought season 1 was an amazing and thrilling ride, I’ve got to admit that the 2 following seasons had some plots or characters or relationships that didn’t grip me at all and had even me thinking that I might stop watching.  

Of course, I still had reasons to keep going, Peter Quinn probably being the main one. Quinn caught my attention and interest from the very start. Every scene with him in it was immediately more interesting for me. He was funny (in his own way), mysterious, intriguing and I loved his interactions with a lot of the other characters, Carrie in particular.

With every new season, he was THE main thing I couldn’t wait to see in the show. But, still, I remained this kind of casual viewer. At the end of season 5, I was very sad to think that he was gone, mercy-killed by Carrie, but I thought the finale gave a certain kind of closure for my favorite character.

When I heard that he was coming back in season 6, I was ecstatic. I was even more happy to see that you didn’t take the easy way out (as many other shows might have), that you were going to address the consequences of everything that happened to him. This was really something that delighted me. I’m a sucker for drama/angst and realism.

By episode 6x02, I was definitely under the spell and a wonderful thing happened : I had the ‘click’ that made me go from ‘casual viewer’ to ‘kind of obsessed viewer’. I can’t exactly explain why. Maybe it’s because of my job (I’m a social worker). Or maybe it’s because it was about an issue I had never seen addressed in a TV show. Or maybe it’s because it involved a character that I’d watched and loved for 5 years. Or maybe it’s because of the brilliant acting of Rupert Friend. It’s probably a mix of the four, but the fact remains : I started to feel this need to go beyond just watching the episodes and I started to really invest myself, emotionally, in the story of this man (as fictional as he may have been). I couldn’t wait to see him overcome the physical and emotional/psychological obstacles of his disability, to see him fight his demons and come back stronger from this ordeal. I didn’t mind that this could take a long time, like I said, I love realistic drama : the longer and the harder the journey, the more intense and emotionally fulfilling the finish line would be…

Except that… not only did Quinn not get the chance to pick himself up, his burden got *even* heavier when it was implied that he was a victim of sexual abuse (from his father figure, no less), when you made him responsible for the death of one of the only person he ever truly cared about, when you managed to make him feel even more worthless than before, and *then*, when you killed him in a way that was so ambiguous, mundane (by *his own* standard) and *stupid* that it was really insulting.

I’m not naive, after watching 6 seasons of Homeland, I didn’t expect a happily-ever-after for Quinn. But after more than 2 seasons of physical, mental and psychological torture, I don’t think expecting to see something else than him being kicked while he was down, again and again and again, was too much to ask. I don’t think wanting to see a character that I’ve watched for 5 seasons, a character who was so important for the plots and the main character of the show, be recognized and honoured after his passing is too much to ask. I also don’t think that wanting to have some explanations about why the story went that way (again !) and to have some acknowledgement that the show *and* the fans suffered a great loss is a caprice.

By no means am I saying that you owe us (the fans) to tell the story we want to have. But I think that you *do* owe some respect and consideration to the fans who contribute(d) to the success of your show.

I also think it’s very important to remember that, while television (and art in the broad sense) is a wonderful tool to highlight problematics that are important to you, to make people think and to open debates… it’s also there to entertain people.

I think it’s a pity that a show as interresting and relevant as Homeland, got lost in its never ending storylines, just to stay as close to the reality as possible and to try and anticipate what horrors our society was going to face next. It’s even sadder that, by doing so, the show lost sight of character development. I’m a big supporter of the character-driven shows : plots should serve the characters, not the other way around.

A few months ago, the wonderful Riz Ahmed made a speech before the U.K Parliament about the importance of diversity and representation on television. About the influence that it can have in the everyday life and for more problematic issues right now. Granted, he was referring to terrorism, but I think that idea could apply to all issues related to the human condition. That’s why, in my humble opinion, TV shows have a responsibility to each issue they address and the message they send to their audience.

Now, more than ever, art plays a huge part in giving people hope and providing them with great role models.

Now, more than ever, television can have a huge influence by showing the world not as it is but as it should be. How every single one of us can contribute to change it.

In this context, Peter Quinn could have been an extraordinary role model to veterans, depressed people, … : After being to hell and back, see him get back on his feet and overcome his demons would have been quite the message of hope, and the goals and achievements to aim for. But instead you dropped the ball and had him die at his absolute lowest, thinking he actually *deserved* all that happened to him.

Quinn’s story didn’t have to end on a happy note. It didn’t even had to end with him being *alive* (I wish it did, though). It just had to be told with dignity and respect. And you denied that to him, to Rupert and to the fans.

I don’t know which way the show is going to go next. Maybe the death of Quinn is actually fake, another ‘gotcha !’ you can’t wait to play on us. Or maybe he’s really dead and you just don’t care about us. Either way, it’s doesn’t matter. The damage is done. You’ve lost 2 of the most important things between a showrunner and his audience : trust and respect.

As far as I’m concerned, once that’s lost, there’s no going back.

Cordialement,

Aurélie A.

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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Lun 28 Aoû - 1:07

Ca m'as fait plaisir C'est une très belle lettre qui démontre ta passion pour le personnage, j'espère sincèrement que vous arriverez à changer les choses Surtout que les fans peuvent souvent avoir une *voix* qui peuvent faire changer les choses. Je pense à Fringe qui devait arrêter en saison 3 à cause des ratings et que grâce aux fans, les messages qu'on envoyait sur twitter quand l'épisode jouait, on a réussi à avoir 2 saisons de plus. Donc je croise les doigts super fort pour toi/vous!

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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Sam 30 Sep - 1:14

Très jolie lettre Aurélie !

Il y a eu des suites/réponses à ce mouvement ?
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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Sam 30 Sep - 19:10

Merci ^^

Pour le moment, uniquement la lettre postée dans The Hollywood Reporter, et la réponse (super condescendante) du showrunner, Alex Gansa Rolling Eyes

Mais je sais que des personnes ont demandé un peu plus de temps pour envoyer leur lettre au mouvement. Je sais aussi que les personnes qui gère NOH attendent le moment opportun pour d'autres "coups". Par exemple, la lettre a été postée durant la période des Emmys, et ça a permis d'attirer l'attention des médias.

Après, je ne m'attends pas à un énorme changement suite au mouvement. Perso, ça m'a fait du bien de mettre en mot mon ressenti, donc c'est déjà ça ^^

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MessageSujet: Re: #NotOurHomeland   Sam 30 Sep - 23:26

Ok, merci pour la réponse !

Vu le grand bruit que ça semble avoir fait, et si ceux qui sont à l'origine du mouvement attendent de frapper de grands coups aux bons moments, je pense qu'on peut leur faire confiance pour que ça ait son petit effet.

Mais déjà, si tu t'es sentie mieux rien que d'écrire sur ta frustration relative au sujet, c'est pas mal !
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