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MessageSujet: We love the women that the fandom hates    Lun 19 Sep - 11:02



Une nouvelle communauté vient d'ouvrir sur LJ et le but est de mettre en avant les personnages féminins détestés/descendus par le fandom.

Pour des informations détaillées, je vous renvois sur le LJ:

http://akzseinga.livejournal.com/234631.html

Mais en gros, il faut savoir que la personne qui clâme aimer un des persos, doit lui dédier un post par jour pendant 1 semaine, sur son LJ.

Je vous propose donc de reprendre ici tous les posts écrits en l'honneur des persos que vous aimez et qui sont repris dans la liste ^^

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You're a lot smarter than you look. Of course, you look like a retard ~ Cordelia Chase
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MessageSujet: Re: We love the women that the fandom hates    Lun 19 Sep - 11:12

Anne Boleyn, The Tudors, défendue par roh_wyn
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Anne Boleyn is, at first glance, hard to love, much less defend. History has not been particularly kind to her, and her portrayal by Natalie Dormer in The Tudors, while brilliant, is not especially sympathetic. She is, by any measure, the most reviled of all of Henry VIII's six wives, and yet, she is easily the most fascinating as well.

Anne Boleyn is not just a pretty face on the show. She's well-versed in language and diplomacy and she's well-read enough to debate theology with the scholars of her time, including Henry VIII himself. She's a determined and surprisingly effective political player in an era when the wives of kings were little more than baby machines, although she meets her match in Thomas Cromwell.

Her stubborn refusal to submit to Henry's will wins her his hand in marriage, and her world--and ours--is changed forever. Finally, when forced to pay the ultimate price for her willfulness, she faces her end with dignity and grace.



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MessageSujet: Re: We love the women that the fandom hates    Lun 19 Sep - 12:15

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You Should See My Scars: An Essay on Cordelia Chase's secrets

One of Cordelia's most well known traits is that in both Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel: The Series she's the truth speaker. She's true to her namesake from King Lear in the fact that she, for the most part, never lies. Cordelia is blunt, honest to a fault. When called on it, she never backs away from this trait. As she most famously tells Giles at one point:

Tact is just saying not true stuff. I'll pass.

And then later, she tells Doyle:

I think it, I say it. That's my way.

Which, for the most part, it is. I think one of the most interesting parts of Cordelia, however, is that this applies to everything but her own feelings and problems. When it comes to those? She's down right secretive.

And most of that seems to be a defense mechanism. Time and time again, it's shown that Cordelia doesn't like to be seen as weak, or as a victim (I'd even go as far to say she gets almost victim blamey with other people from time to time because of this issue). The first time this really comes up in a full blown sort of way is the end of season 3 of Buffy, when she reveals to Xander that she's been working at a store to buy a prom dress, because her family lost all their money. She can't go to college despite getting into some really, really good ones because there are no funds to send her. It has to be a huge blow to her that all her plans have gone out the window, but she doesn't tell anyone about it.

Not that she at that point really has anyone to tell. She's an outsider at best with the Scoobies, and even more estranged once Xander cheats on her. Not to mention, Xander cheating on her was a big enough blow to her ego and social standing. I imagine she was afraid if the whole school found out about her family, she'd fall even farther from grace. So she keeps it a secret. A well placed one too, in retrospect. A lot of the later episodes of that season have her trying to leave Scooby meetings early, and while it looks like she's being callous and selfish, in retrospect you realize she's doing that because she has to go work.

The biggest example of this behavior in her, however, probably comes up in Angel: The Series and how she deals with how bad her visions get. Even before the reveal that they're killing her, we see Cordelia constantly trying to hide how bad they're getting. She waits until everyone else leaves to burst out crying, she takes pills in silence. When it starts manifesting in physical attacks on her in "That Vision Thing" she tries to hide it from Angel and the others. And this time, she has friends and a support system, but in spite of that, she still can't let them completely in. Old habits die hard, and in many ways Cordelia is a creature of pride. She doesn't want them to see her differently.

Which is why she goes to doctors secretly, tries to cope with things secretly. The only one who knows is Dennis, and he's bound to her apartment, and in a way to her, so of course he keeps her secrets until it's almost too late. One has to wonder if they could have found another solution if she had just clued the other in on how bad thing were getting before she ended up in a coma.

Even in her last appearance, this trait in her comes up. It's revealed in the end of the episode that Cordelia knew from the beginning of the episode that she wasn't back for good. And even when she has the chance to say goodbye to everyone (when they talk about going to go get drinks), she doesn't say anything. She leaves it to Angel to break that news to everyone. At best, she sort of says goodbye to Wesley (with the whole you still work the best mojo in town) and that makes sense since he's the closest person to her after Angel, but it's still jarring to think about. Once again, she wants to be seen a certain way, and avoid hard conversations as much as she can.

And as much as this whole word vomit essay might sound like a criticism, it's not. I'm a sucker for character flaws, and hubris in a form like this is really fascinating to me. Especially since Cordelia presents herself as the truthsayer, someone who's brutally honest, but then time and time again, she keeps these huge, devestating secrets to herself. It makes her that much more complex and interesting to me for it.

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